October 05, 2004
A "young Chirac"?
I hope I won't break anyone's heart, but I'm afraid France's best hope is all hot air.
Nicolas Sarkozy was speaking (lecturing?) at Columbia University yesterday, and his speech only confirmed my distrust towards him.
"France loves the United States" but has "a different position regarding Iraq" that doesn't question the friendship between two countries that "belong to the camp of democracies" against terrorism, Finance Minister Nicolas Sarkozy declared on Monday in New York."If I'm here, that's because France loves the United States. We love the United States, and you should not see the world as hostile to the United States," Sarkozy declared while answering questions from American students at NY Columbia University.
"The dream of French families is that their children can go to American universities. When we go to the movies, it's to watch American movies. When we listen to the radio, we listen to American music. When our children learn a foreign language, it's English," he claimed.
In a recent French poll regarding the French and the American presidential election, when asked "in general, when you think about the United States, you are rather..." the answers were:
Admirative - 6%
Kind - 11%
Indifferent - 14%
Worried - 33%
Critical - 36%
So much for admiration, Nicolas.
When asked whether, in different fields, they'd like the US to have more or less influence, they answered:
- in culture (movies, TV, music), 25% wanted the US to have more influence against 68% who wanted them to have less influence,
- in the economy, 17% against 79%,
- regarding defense and intervention in the world, 16% against 80%.
Does Mr. Sarkozy really think Americans are stupid? I know, I know, it's Columbia University, so they probably are leaning towards France in their majority.
The world admires you, the world respects you. But sometimes the world is wondering if you care about us who are not Americans," he added.
No, they don't care. That's the reason why they don't topple dictatorships. That's the reason why they didn't save France several times. That's the reason why - and it's a well-known fact - they never ever send humanitarian or financial aid anywhere. No Americans don't care. That's very French, you see. Remember that: whatever you will do, it will never be enough for your "friends" the French.
"We disagreed over Iraq, it's part of our history. Everybody has the right to have their position. Don't think you have adversaries in France; you have friends, and accept that friends do not agree with you," he added."Understand one thing: we were thrown out of Algeria less than 50 years ago. Is there a country, at any time in history, that was able to stay for long in a country that wasn't its country, only by force? No. We, the French, lived this in Algeria and in Dien Bien Phu. Don't be mad at us because we remember what happened to us," the Minister insisted.
Wait a minute: what happened to "us"? What happened to the French empire. What happened in the French colonies. Iraq is not and will not become an American colony. That's the difference between the United States and France. They are not in Iraq to stay. On the other hand the French, more than 40 years after Algeria regained its independence, are still nostalgic about the time when it was a colony.
When an American soldier dies in Iraq, the French are deeply moved, as if he was French, Italian, Polish or Spanish," he claimed.
Except that Italian, Polish and Spanish troops did die in Iraq.
And we know that your failure would also be the failure of democracies. We have no soldier in Iraq, but right now as I'm talking, two French are held hostage," he continued.
Thanks for being the bird of ill omen. We want to believe the US won't fail in Iraq - partly because it is indeed in the interest of all democracies - although it certainly won't be thanks to America's "friends" in France. As for the two French hostages... I thought the Iraqi government had offered to help? That's too bad the French government almost showed them the finger because they were so certain they'd manage the situation just fine.
You were martyred in New York, before Madrid. Paris also had its dead. We too are in the camp of democracy and potential victims of terrorism," he insisted.In the future, a solution will have to be found in Iraq. According to us, it will have to be through the international community.
There was an argument between our two countries. But we need die-hard supporters of the French-American friendship to overcome trials that only are a moment in the history of our two countries and that doesn't change the friendship between people," he explained.
How easy is that? Okay. We, the French, forget that we disagreed with you and tried to bribe nations to block you at the UN. Quelle noblesse d'âme, vraiment ! Now won't you forget and forgive too?
How easy?
Posted by Carine at October 5, 2004 08:23 AMI like your fisking of Sarkozy’s speech. How dare he compares the colonial wars (Algeria and Vietnam) with the liberation war in Iraq ? And always the hypocrite words like “ we are friends , we can express disagreement ” , nothing new. The french government not only talked about disagreement but also acted , they tried to build an axis of “peace” ( France , Germany , Russia) against USA , and “ bribe nations to block USA at the UN ”.
The head of state or the government can change, but the idea of “Grandeur de la France” is difficult to remove of the fancy of the french people . “Grandeur de la France” = France is big only if she acts against USA.
an LSD-laced baguette could not make a frenchman talk more foolishly than this seemingly sober, yet delushional imbecile.
the "friendship" he mentions coming from france to the US is a concept only in this fools little mind. He seems to ignore the reality that the US can see right through the thin skin of the french freaks and laugh as the french bite ankles like leeches, yet draw no pain from the US.
Here's an unhappy surprise for M. Sarkozy, friendships are fragile, not infrangible. Sometimes they perdure. More often they end.
The French call on America to accept French "disagreement" as a burden of friendship, but America's "disagreement" with France is "illegal" and "illegitimate". That's not a "disagreement", that is an indictment. Not that France has the wherewithal to prosecute such an indictment. No she only goes anywhere she will be had and broadcasts this charge.
What the French remember of their colonial adventures is their fondness for owning nations and a nostalgia for privilege.
DGB
Posted by: Damian at October 5, 2004 07:29 PMPato,
"An LSD-laced baguette..."
ROTFL!!
The whole comment is too good, just too, too good!
Posted by: Valerie, Texas at October 5, 2004 07:33 PMIs there a country, at any time in history, that was able to stay for long in a country that wasn't its country, only by force?
Well lets see.
French Guiana: First settled by the French in 1604
From the International Anarchist Web Page.
6 June, 1997
Dear Comrades,
We request you to get involved with the French C.N.T. in some solidarity protest. Indeed, we are currently leading a campaign against recent events in Guiana, one of the last French colony. First, let me expose the situation.
In November 1996, Guianese pupils at secondary school started a strike to obtain a real teaching policy in their country. As all the others Guianese sectors, education is underdeveloped. Indeed, the French state, together with the leading European industrial companies, limits its view of Guiana to the space-launching base of Kuru (Kourou). Space industry represents 70% of the activity, whereas a very small part of the population is working in it. All the more, employees of the base are mainly French middle-class metropolitans. As a consequence, the native workers live very precariously (mean salary is there much lower than in France) right in front of technological equipment that is worth billions of francs....
Martinique and Guadeloupe: First settled in 1639. France invented the slave trade here 1642.[didn't take long, did they - ed. PT]
King Louis XIII authorises the use of slaves in the colonies. This part of the history is called ''la Traite des noirs" in french.
The Ivory Coast: French contact with Cote d'Ivoire occurred in 1637, when missionaries landed at Assini, on the southern Ivoirian coast.
Just one exerpt from that After Cote d'Ivoire officially became a French colony in 1893, France engaged in a socalled pacification campaign clearly intended to subjugate the indigenous population and to establish French sovereignty. Before World War I, the many instances of violent and protracted resistance to the French, especially among the Baoulé, were the longest wars fought between Europeans and Africans in West Africa.
By the way I can't begin to express my revoltion at Sarkozy implying that we are seeking colonies in the Middle East. (FOAD AH)*
*colorful american expression which I will provide the translation of to all who apply by email.
Posted by: papertiger at October 5, 2004 11:14 PMsgvn,
Pato,
I think that's what irritates me the most, that they keep insisting France is a "friend and ally" of the U.S. It's as if they had made some kind of mantra out of these three words.
Damian,
It may be an indictment but it is for your own good. Remember: the French admire you. The French respect you. The French love you. Can't you see that?
PT,
Send my the translation for this colorful American expression immediately. I'm always eager to learn new idioms ;)
And we love the french as well.
I highly recommend them. In fact they're delicious...
Doug
My man ^5
Right on, my fellow babies
(I was starting to feel like I hung it out, all by my lonesome)
Posted by: papertiger at October 7, 2004 02:06 AM




