April 26, 2006
No, it is not Chicago
Because of an increase in violent attacks and robberies in the streets, the UMP (Chirac's majority party) mayor of Montfermeil, a suburb of Paris, has forbidden young people between 15 and 18 to go around in the streets in groups of more than 3 people, by day as by night. This until June 30.
Daily Libération has the audio comments of several of the inhabitants of the town. One weasel woman comments : "We're afraid to go out. It's like we're in Chicago."
No no, weasel lady, it's Montfermeil and la douce France.
Posted by Carine at April 26, 2006 01:10 PMIn Chicago the gunmen only shot up each other, they didn't attack the local civilians.
Posted by: foreign devil at April 26, 2006 11:55 PM"It's like we're in Chicago".
The weasel woman in question clearly hasn't been in the States lately, since both Chicago and NYC are--thanks to zero-tolerance policing--among the safest cities in which to walk at night.
I oughta know; I'm a Chicagoan, and dat's da truth.
Posted by: Eric Jacobson at April 27, 2006 07:46 AMErik,c,
A place I loved to walk to at night in Chicago was the Berghoff. Why did it close?!
Guess that woman thinks Al Capone is still around swinging his Louisville slugger at board meetings.
That the French police are trying do to SOMETHING is encouraging. Isn't it?
Posted by: Valerie, Texas at April 27, 2006 02:24 PMIt didnt fully close - the bar section is still there from what i remember reading about it.
Which is fine with me i ate there 3 times and couldnt stand it!
Posted by: Badboy Recovered at April 27, 2006 11:14 PMIt didnt fully close - the bar section is still there from what i remember reading about it.
Which is fine with me i ate there 3 times and couldnt stand it!
Posted by: Badboy Recovered at April 27, 2006 11:14 PMdamn double posts!
Posted by: Badboy Recovered at April 27, 2006 11:15 PMHas a blog to be impartial ?
It's difficult to say. But if you want to gain credibility tou should try.
Has France had some problems? Yes like every country. But with your blog we are in front of a smear campaingn against France. If USA are so perfect, why do you stay here ? (I say that without angry). Don't forget that such comment in the US will brougth you the title of "unamerican".
About the subjetc of our post (unsecurity), I send you some documents in order to enlarge your comprehension of the feeling of the "weasel woman".
Le 18 juin, dans le cadre d’un traitement non stop de la question de l’« insécurité » (1), l’auditeur puis l’internaute de Radio France apprirent que le pire venait de survenir. Sous le titre « Criminalité : la France devant les Etats-Unis », le site de Radio France sonnait le tocsin : « La France, nouveau Far West ? Même attendus par certains, la révélation et le constat d’Alain Bauer ne devraient pas manquer de secouer citoyens et politiciens. » M.Jacques Chirac y fit promptement référence.
L’« étude » de M. Bauer s’appuie sur une pratique, plus distrayante que scientifique, consistant à additionner des queues de cerise et des camions-citernes. Car, à partir des chiffres de la délinquance fournis par le ministère de l’intérieur - dont ce ministère admet sans rechigner le caractère très peu fiable (2) - M. Bauer (et Radio France avec lui) accorde la même importance au chapardage de téléphones portables et au meurtre en série. Ainsi, et ainsi seulement, s’explique le « croisement historique entre les criminalités des deux pays » invoqué par M. Bauer.
Le site de Radio France indiquait cependant, pudiquement : « Nous sommes encore loin du nombre de meurtres et de viols aux USA. » Présenté comme « devant les Etats-Unis » en matière de « criminalité », le « nouveau Far West » demeurait en effet l’année dernière très « en retard » sur l’ancien en matière de meurtres (1 pour 56 529 habitants, contre 1 pour 18 321 habitants aux Etats-Unis) et de viols (1 pour 7 024 habitants, contre 1 pour 3 136 habitants aux Etats-Unis). Sans doute un détail de ce type valait à peine qu’on s’y attarde.
LE MONDE DIPLOMATIQUE | août 2001 | Page 2
For the United States I have extracted the most & least dangerous States based on FBI Uniform Crime Reports for the year 2003:
source: http://www.benbest.com/lifeext/murder.html
For the United States I have extracted the most & least dangerous States based on FBI Uniform Crime Reports for the year 2003:
TEN WORST STATES FOR MURDER, 2003
STATE (PER 100,000)
(1) Louisiana 13.0
(2) Maryland 9.5
(3) Mississippi 9.3
(4) Nevada 8.8
(5) Arizona 7.9
(6) Georgia 7.6
(7) South Carolina 7.2
(8) California 6.8
(9) Tennessee 6.8
(10) Alabama 6.6
TEN WORST LARGE CITIES FOR MURDER, 2002
CITy (PER 100,000)
(1) Washington, DC 45.8
(2) Detroit 42.0
(3) Baltimore 38.3
(4) Memphis 24.7
(5) Chicago 22.2
(6) Philadelphia 19.0
(7) Columbus 18.1
(8) Milwaukee 18.0
(9) Los Angeles 17.5
(10) Dallas 15.8
About another of your post ("A french game") it's true that there is stupid people in our country. I hope that they will stand the american level quickly. So we will have our "Collombine high school"...
Posted by: franck at April 28, 2006 10:52 AMFranck,
Has a blog to be impartial ?
Why should it have to? Have you seen the banner above? Does it sound like "impartial"?
How many times will I have to repeat to you Frenchies that this blog is a private property and that I do whatever I want with it?
It's difficult to say. But if you want to gain credibility tou should try.
Credibility in regard to whom? You? Who are you to claim to be a judge in matters of credibility?
Has France had some problems? Yes like every country. But with your blog we are in front of a smear campaingn against France.
You've been doing it for decades against the United States. Now, how does it feel? I only focus my posts on France, that is all.
If USA are so perfect, why do you stay here ? (I say that without angry).
First, I never said America was perfect. Only much much better than France. Second, I am French, that's why I'm still here (is it forbidden to a French citizen to criticize France now?). Third, I'll be leaving France in a couple of months, actually.
Don't forget that such comment in the US will brougth you the title of "unamerican".
What "such comment"? Objective criticism? You have much to learn about the United States.
About your "documents in order to enlarge [my] comprehension of the feeling of the 'weasel woman'", kiddie, I know Montfermeil and what other, formerly calm and nice, French suburbs have become, and I know today's America (I have no doubt, better than you do).
And please... Le Monde Diplomatique? Are you kidding me??? This pro-communist, pro-murderers rag is no source for serious, credible news. So please, try a little harder and then we'll be able to have an "impartial" exchange on "unsecurity" in France and the United States.
As for Columbine, huh, you mean in France like burning young women and gang raping them?
And you think I should be "impartial" to gain "credibility"? Translated into weasel-newspeak it means: anti-American, anti-capitalism, anti-freedom.
Posted by: Carine at April 28, 2006 11:59 AMIt's funny to see how you brought a lot of subject to communism. It reminds the great age of the witches hunt. Are you the little dughter of senator McCarthy ?
It's true that in front of communism, the american policy aimed only at the freedom of people. That's why awfull dictators (e.g. Pinochet) took power in South America.
But you will say I'm "anti-americain". For most of people in France, this "anti-americanisme" (which is not hate against americans, most are nice people) is just mistrust in front of a single superpower country that claim: I can do what I want, if you are not with me you are against me.
This in inforce by the religious feeling in the US. In god they trust, so they are right? When you listen how many times the word god appears in Bush declarations,we can wonder if they souldn't make the difference beetween religion and policy.
France policy against war in Irack didn't come from sympathy for Saddam. We just want to prevent US from the difficulties they could rise with this war. Now Irack is about to encounter civil war. Iran with the Irackies chiite part has increased its influence in the region, Kurds will perhaps claim for independance which will destabilize Turkey...
And now we learn that former general accuse Rumsfeld for forgetting 10 years of battle plan reflexion to occupate Irack. Another clue to think that US war was only motivated bil crude oil. Rumsfeld wasn't the chairman of Halliberton ?
In fact I regret that Bush was not a Roosvelt or a Truman who plannified even more cleaverly the occupation of Japan.
But what we get with this "mises-en-garde": a declaration of Ms Rice to forgive Germany and punish France.
Posted by: franck at April 28, 2006 01:16 PM---"Has France had some problems? Yes like every country."---
Wow, that's the first time I've heard a Frenchmen admit that much. I almost feel like I should fill out a UFO report or something.
Posted by: Charles at April 28, 2006 06:29 PMIt's funny to see how you brought a lot of subject to communism.
Unfortunately, I must deal with it sometimes. Like this time.
It reminds the great age of the witches hunt. Are you the little dughter of senator McCarthy ?
"Little daughter"? What? No just a reincarnation ;-)
It's true that in front of communism, the american policy aimed only at the freedom of people. That's why awfull dictators (e.g. Pinochet) took power in South America.
Maybe you could do some research about Pinochet and the opinion of the Chileans about Pinochet vs. Allende.
But you will say I'm "anti-americain". For most of people in France, this "anti-americanisme" (which is not hate against americans, most are nice people) is just mistrust in front of a single superpower country that claim: I can do what I want, if you are not with me you are against me. This in inforce by the religious feeling in the US. In god they trust, so they are right? When you listen how many times the word god appears in Bush declarations,we can wonder if they souldn't make the difference beetween religion and policy.
And anti-religion. What's going on in the US is not your business. Contrary to other nations, they are not trying to impose their religion on you.
France policy against war in Irack didn't come from sympathy for Saddam.
Nor from the oil vouchers.
We just want to prevent US from the difficulties they could rise with this war.
Why don't you mind your own business first? Don't you think France has enough problems to deal with? I mean, riots, cars, libraries and building burning, anti-Semitic kidnappings, torture and killing and so forth and so on.
Now Irack is about to encounter civil war. Iran with the Irackies chiite part has increased its influence in the region, Kurds will perhaps claim for independance which will destabilize Turkey...
And won't you just let the Iraqis deal with their own country? Don't you think you've done enough by supporting Saddam already?
And now we learn that former general accuse Rumsfeld for forgetting 10 years of battle plan reflexion to occupate Irack. Another clue to think that US war was only motivated bil crude oil.
Sure. The evidence being the cost of the war and reconstruction so far paid for by the American taxpayers.
Rumsfeld wasn't the chairman of Halliberton ?
Crass ignorance. You really do speak of what you have no idea about.
In fact I regret that Bush was not a Roosvelt or a Truman who plannified even more cleaverly the occupation of Japan.
Ah, plannification, here we are.
But what we get with this "mises-en-garde": a declaration of Ms Rice to forgive Germany and punish France.
No, it was no "mise-en-garde", it was a deliberate blocking. And basically, again, what the world - not just America - asks of France is that she minds her own business.
Posted by: Carine at April 28, 2006 08:03 PM




