September 02, 2007

Pave: Pas trop important ... V

I cannot tell you how hated the French are in Rwanda.

Iain Dale,
political commentator, reporting from where
French soldiers built a basketball court atop a mass grave
MARAMBI, Rwanda July 23, 2007 (iaindale.blogspot.com)

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FRANCE IN RWANDA
"In These Countries, Genocide's No Big Deal."
François Mitterrand, Fourth President of the French Fifth Republic,
architect of French policies before, during, and after the Rwandan genocide

A preview of the final report of the Mucyo commission (headed by former Justice Minister Jean de Dieu Mucyo and charged with determining France's role in the 1994 genocide):

FRENCH TROOPS 'RAPED GIRLS DURING RWANDA GENOCIDE'

KIGALI August 30, 2007 (Independent) - French soldiers stationed in Rwanda during the genocide in 1994 have been accused of "widespread rape" by a Rwandan commission investigating France's role during the conflict.

The commission, which is due to publish its final report in October, will also provide fresh evidence that French soldiers trained the Interahamwe, the extremist Hutu militia responsible for most of the killing, and even provided them with weapons.

... France's support for the genocidal Rwandan regime – both before and during the slaughter – has been well documented, but the new report sheds some light on the extent of that backing.

In particular, it provides the first evidence that French soldiers sent to Rwanda during the genocide as part of a UN-mandated force to protect civilians carried out "widespread rape" of genocide survivors. Jean Paul Kimonyo, one of the commissioners, said: "They were asking for Tutsis – not women – Tutsis."

... Based on testimony given at public hearings by genocide survivors and former soldiers trained by French forces, plus evidence from piles of official paperwork left by the fleeing Hutu regime, the commission believes it has enough proof to convince the international community.

Dr Kimonyo:

France was directly involved in the preparation of the genocide. They were training the Interahamwe in a systematic manner. They were training them to kill, to kill as fast as possible as one witness said, using knives and machetes. What were they training them for? It is very disturbing.

France has so far refused to acknowledge any role it played during the genocide.

[Hat tip: Hervé]

Perhaps France calculates that -- the facts be damned -- government policy too evil to imagine will prove too much to believe.

To begin at the beginning, see our background post here. Ongoing posts can be found here, here, here, here, here, and here.

For an account of the failure of consenus internationalism in Rwanda read Samantha Power's excellent Bystanders To Genocide.

PFFT (What is this?): Too evil to imagine 5 | Too evil to believe ½ | This story all over the wires 0 | Rayonnement français 0 (there is no lower rating)

Posted by Damian at September 2, 2007 11:30 PM
Comments

Not surprising. After all, two of the greatest 20th century genocidal leaders (Adolf and Marx -> ideological leader of Lenin and Stalin) learned their trade in Europe.

Posted by: Paul at September 4, 2007 06:32 PM

Of course we Americans know nothing about genocide, racism, friendly dictators and soldiers gone awry.

Praise the Lord!

Posted by: howdydoody at September 4, 2007 08:35 PM

AH, Howdydowdy,

The issue at hand is genocide.

The American army has never participated in genocide, properly understood, on the orders of its government. The American government, in the whole of its history, has never issued such orders. The French government, in both ancient and modern forms, has. On several occasions; Paris (St. Bartholomew's Day Massacre), Vendée, Vichy, Algeria, Rwanda.

American soldiers gone awry have been found out, prosecuted and convicted and sentenced by America. No French soldier has ever been so much as indicted for actions in Rwanda.

The American MSM is awash in any dark news about America in the world. The broad French public has yet to learn the story of France's role in Algeria and Rwanda.

And then there is the question of scale and proportion. One million dead in 100 days -- 10,000 murders a day every day for 100 days. Hard to top.

So exactly what is your argument? Give the French a pass because you believe America no better. Hhmmm, why not give Stalin and Mao and Pol Pot and, well, everybody a pass because America doesn't pass your four-nines purity test. But of course no modern nation state -- that is something more than a dressed-up tax haven -- can.

Your facile tu quoque is as empty as your sanctimony.

Please drop by again to better instruct us on what -- in your informed opinion -- we are qualified to comment on.

Regards,
DGB

Posted by: Damian at September 5, 2007 12:00 AM

"The American army has never participated in genocide, properly understood, on the orders of its government."

I wonder then: what almost wiped out the american natives ? A meteor ? Too much reading of Karl Marx ? Or maybe was it Saddam's WMD.

Posted by: elvis at September 24, 2007 06:52 PM

Oh. An Elvis sighting.

Of course Elvis is thought to be dead, but judging by his uninformed comment it is plain whatever the vital disposition of his other corporeal assets, Elvis's brain is most certainly defunct.

First, Elvis apparently is unaware that the American government and the Indian nations were engaged in a series of wars, not a one-sided genocide. There was never a national policy to exterminate the Indian peoples. The goals of the federal government vis-a-vis the Indian peoples was A) to end armed resistance, B) assimilate them, and/or C) force their relocation to Indian reservations.

Second, Elvis confuses massacres -- a local tactic carried out by both belligerents -- with widespread and systematic killing of whole peoples.

Third, where horrors there were -- and there were horrific and indiscriminate killings -- these were the actions of individual commanders, both federal and Indian, waging war as they understood it.

Elvis is ignorant of these important distinctions. We are equally certain he is ignorant of the basic history of the Indian Wars, Indian alliances with American enemies, the all-but-forgotten peaceful acquisitions of Indian land, and the ongoing warring of the Indian peoples among themselves.

No. No need for any actual history for brain-dead Elvis. For him there are no distinctions -- the only possible explanation is his revisionist "dark America".

DGB

Posted by: Damian at September 25, 2007 06:03 AM
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